NP or NP?

"and 100 more" (nth256) 07/19/2018 at 11:39 • Filed to: None

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97 Accord, 181K miles, minty-fresh condition, and it’s a manual . $2100!!!

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Stay my hand, oppos... I need not this temptation in my life.

LOREM IPSUM > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 11:53

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I mean, yeah, np and really good condition... But I would need to engine swap  it. 130hp just will not do.

and 100 more > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 11:56

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I bet H22's are getting hard to find these days. I’ve gotta imagine...

I wonder what the go-to swap is for this generation Accord is lately?

LongbowMkII > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:02

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NP

LongbowMkII > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:03

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Between the torque and the light weight it’s probably not too bad. Then again a titanium exhaust tip and hot air intake are just a eBay click away :P

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:05

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NP. Only one previous owner and three previous thieves!

Long-Voyager > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:08

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130HP will do just fine mated to the stick, gotta remember this is far lighter than it’s newer counterparts.

interstate366, now In The Industry > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:08

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Preludes are getting decrepit enough that you can find a decent H22 for cheap (best bet is to find an automatic 5th gen Prelude that had transmission failure) , or if you don’t have emissions testing you could get one at a JDM parts importer. Also the F20B and the H23 VTEC are H22-based and will drop right in, though they need some sensors changed to do so (essentially you’d need an H22 donor). If you’re willing to get more involved there have been  K24 swaps.

LOREM IPSUM > Long-Voyager 07/19/2018 at 12:14

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They were slow when they were new though.  I ’d want more, lest I get bored.

LOREM IPSUM > LongbowMkII 07/19/2018 at 12:15

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Ebay turbo kit might not be the worst way to ruin it.

and 100 more > interstate366, now In The Industry 07/19/2018 at 12:16

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Problem is, if I’m buying a Prelude as a donor, I’m more likely to just fix up the Prelude. I am a fickle bitch.

I was unaware of the F20B, I’ll have to do some research there.

Also, I was under the impression that the K-series were too tall for the Accord engine bay, I guess they found a work-around for that ?

LOREM IPSUM > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:18

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Hard to say about the H series engine. After ‘03 or so when Honda reversed everything under the hood everyone seemed to start gravitating towards the newer engines when looking for swaps. Roughly the same time I stopped paying much attention.

Al ways wanted a turbo h22 in a Civic. CRX, del-sol, etc.

and 100 more > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 07/19/2018 at 12:20

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This generation Accord hits a soft spot for me. First car I ever bought w/ my own money, paid it off, upgraded the stereo (nothing big, just an improvement over the OEM unit), only to have it stolen from the apartment I lived at.

Coincidentally, mine had about 185k miles, if i recall.

and 100 more > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:21

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Jeez, I remember all the Civic swaps... it was like l egos.

Long-Voyager > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:24

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Just corner faster. ;)

LOREM IPSUM > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:26

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People got really creative Frankensteining stuff. Mixing and matching stouter, more torque inducing non-V TEC blocks with built up VTEC heads. Fuel cutoff points that were more sportbike than economy car. So much forced induction going around it could ha ve kept the credit card companies in business all by itself.

Twas a fun time. I miss Super Street,  SCC, Import Tuner...

and 100 more > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:29

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I worked w/ a guy who had an all-motor Integra built up to about 400 hp. He was just getting out of the scene when i met him, tho. He just got tired of throwing money at the next upgrade.

LOREM IPSUM > Long-Voyager 07/19/2018 at 12:30

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Oh, we’re going coilovers, 25mm anti-roll bars, and the full poly bushing treatment, are we? Lol

Long-Voyager > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:33

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Might as well do it right!

LOREM IPSUM > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:34

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Yeah. All motor Hondas were impressive at being horrible hp/$ projects. He must have spent a mint getting to 400. Respect though.

I would have sleeved an H22 and added 30psi, with a little nawz to sp00 l teh turb0. (Sorry, y2k flashback)

and 100 more > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:35

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Guys, guys! C’mon now, let’s be reasonable here...

...

Yeah, fuck reasonable, what else can we look at here?

interstate366, now In The Industry > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:37

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Depends on how bad the body is, too. 90s Honda rust and all that.

The F20B is kinda-sorta a destroked/debored H22, with some internal differences (the timing belt has a couple fewer ribs, for example), and is less torquey.

Can confirm the K24 swap has been done, looks like Hasport makes mounts for it.

LOREM IPSUM > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:38

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I thought we were? Not a single mention of spoilers or altezzas.

We have progressed as a society.

Fwiw though, t he hardest thing about this Accord build is gonna be finding a 99-00 Civic Si(R) to steal the rims off of.

functionoverfashion > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 12:43

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I had a 1996, same color, same interior, also a manual, in college and a bit afterward. I drove it cross-country multiple times, slept in it, put chains on it and drove around Colorado seeking deep snow.... Here it is somewhere between Salt Lake and Jackson, Wyoming:

I taught friends to drive manual with it; pulled many e-brake turns; drove it like a rally car on back roads. All it asked for in return from 120k to 200k was a starter and an exhaust (which, to be fair, broke because I hit a chunk of ice at 90mph in the middle of the night on the highway out west).

and 100 more > functionoverfashion 07/19/2018 at 12:48

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Nice!! What happened to it?

and 100 more > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 12:51

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I draw the line there. It had to be TE37's or an equivalent knockoff.

Also, I always preferred the Jag-style tails (I had a ‘95 without lights in the trunk).

and 100 more > interstate366, now In The Industry 07/19/2018 at 13:04

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Good point on the rust, though I’m  not too worried about it on this example; seems like it has been well kept.

K24 swap sounds interesting...

interstate366, now In The Industry > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 13:08

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The EM1 wheels won’t fit, different lug pattern (4x100 vs. the Accord’s 4x114.3). However, the 95-96 Integra Type R wheels will go on...a friend of mine has one with a set of them.

functionoverfashion > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 13:16

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Kind of a long story. Sold it to a friend for $1800. He drove it for a while, banged up a front fender and had a tree fall on the roof; sunroof still didn’t leak, amazingly. He ended up giving it back to me at around 210k, I drove it through another winter, then gave it to a friend who needed reliable transportation, in trade for some work he did for me. Later, he gave it to his sister who drove it presumably until some major thing caused its final demise. 

interstate366, now In The Industry > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 13:16

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Yeah, it does. My Prelude, on the other hand, has rust in the typical places.

I love K24s. I’ll miss mine when I sell the TSX, but on the other hand...J37.

and 100 more > interstate366, now In The Industry 07/19/2018 at 13:29

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For what its worth, OEM 16" wheels from an ‘ 87 Galant bolt up as well.

and 100 more > functionoverfashion 07/19/2018 at 13:30

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Damn, RIP.

LOREM IPSUM > interstate366, now In The Industry 07/19/2018 at 13:36

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Guess he’ll have to take the whole Civic then, and borrow the hub s too. 

functionoverfashion > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 13:37

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It was a great car; the couple I bought it from was in their 50's probably, kids grown and gone. They drove it long distances for work and took excellent care of it. I knew it was a good sign as I was looking it over, he had his grandson and they were looking all over it for dings and scratches. “Here’s a little one!” The kid would say, enthusiastically. I was a sophomore in college with no car and was like, “wow it runs, great!”

I had had a 1990 Civic before that, and an ‘85 Accord before that. 

interstate366, now In The Industry > LOREM IPSUM 07/19/2018 at 13:40

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Could always just use the 92-93 Prelude wheels, which look very similar and have the same bolt pattern.

LOREM IPSUM > interstate366, now In The Industry 07/19/2018 at 13:43

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But that doesn't make for quite as good of a shitpost. 

Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition > interstate366, now In The Industry 07/19/2018 at 15:00

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I have a 6th gen Civic. The D16Y7 is getting a bit of wrist pin wear at 265k miles, so I am going to have to do something by the end of next year. The body/interior are in immaculate condition so I have been contemplating a K24/K20 hybrid swap. To me it will be worth the 6k to 8k dollars cause I don’t plan on selling it ever, it has been my dream car since high school. If I do it right it will be just as reliable as the stock drivetrain. I could always rebuild the D16 and put a Y8 head and a small turbo to the same. I just think I will be trading reliability going with the turbo motor, too many decisions.

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > and 100 more 07/19/2018 at 15:11

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NP. 

Long-Voyager > Junkrat aka Rick Sanchez: Fury Road Edition 07/19/2018 at 16:04

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A well built turbo engine won’t be any less reliable than a high rev NA engine.

The key being well built.